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Vurdere å smelle i noe som spiller rent og pent med litt punch uten at det blir for mye makkverk utav det og vekt/størrelse vil jeg også helst ha så lav som mulig. Dunkadunka for nabolaget er ikke hva jeg er ute etter. Og jeg hører ekstremt mye forskjellig musikk. I stua har jeg et par Triangle Antal ESW høytalere samt en SVS PB10 subwoofer, å få noe tilsvarende lydkvalitet er vel det jeg kunne tenkt meg i bilen egentlig. For det første, bilen min er tilnærmet null lydisolert fra fabrikk, slik vil jeg helst at den skal være også. Jeg har pella ut reservehjul og slikt no for å oppheve de kiloene som legges til og har planer om å bygge det meste nedi reservehjulsbrønnen. Bilen er en hatchback. Har funnet no hinsidige priser på diverse utstyr ifra usa fra seriøse butikker. Jobber selv i butikk og aldri i livet om jeg klarer å få like god pris selv med ansatt tilbud. Bilen min skal ikke være noe bilstereo utstilligngsobjekt og jeg vil ha lyden for min egen del. Passasjerer og slikt driter jeg i ;) Vet av erfaring på hifi at pioneer kan forsterkere, har derfor rota opp no forslag der. Tenkte også på no 5-6" komponenthøytalere i døra med diskanten plassert på innsiden av speila. En kjapp 10'er i gulvet baki samt bygge et par forsterkere ned (en til sub og en til resten). Så er blandt annet spørsmålet, vil det være noe vits/hjelpe på å putte no 6-8"ere i en mdf hattehylle? Det jeg har sett på foreløbig er følgende: Pioneer Premier TS-W2501D4 10" subwoofer Klasse D mono subwoofer forsterker pioneer prs-d3000spl Klasse D ice 4 kanals forsterker for resten av høytalerne Pioneer Premier PRS-D4100F 5,25" komponenthøytalere med løs diskant og delefilter for dørene Pioneer Premier TS-C520PRS Ville kanskje vurdert noe annet om jeg hadde handlet her til lands. Greia er den at alt dette bare blir å koste meg 4-5500 kroner kontra 2-3 ganger så mye her til lands. Opprinnelig vurderte jeg det minste komponentsettet til Seas Lotus serien. Siden mitt interesseområde på bilen har begrenset seg til motor og understell har jeg null erfaring med bilstereo. Har nå kjørt rundt uten lyd i bilen i flere måneder så er vel på tide å sette i noe. Skrik ut hvis noen har bedre forslag. Noen har nevnt infinity kappa blandt annet, dette merket fører også den butikken jeg har plukket meg ut. Samt alt fra kicker til clarion til alpine, JL osv. Tar gjerne imot innspill på hva jeg bør kjøpe av kabler til noe slikt, sikringer (automat eller ikke for eksempel), kondensatorer? med mer. Vil en slik subwoofer fungere godt bygd ned i gulver slik jeg har tenkt? Planen er å drive dette med en velbygd carputer som også bygges ned i reservehjulsbrønnen med et kvalitetslydkort koblet opp mot forsterkerne. Skal styres fra integrert touchskjerm fremme i dobbelDIN.
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Gruer for at denne kan være for kjapp, ta et kjapt søk på Meguiar's Online evt spør mike phillips hva han tror. Som de sier i reklamen; "skeptisk" ;)
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Skal være den siste til å dømme hvem som kan ha gjort hva men jeg må si at det er ganske useriøst av fedrelandsvennen å quote "vitner" på at en bil har tatt noen smultringer på en avskjermet parkeringsplass. Hvordan kan man egentlig ha "vanvittig fart" når man driver og snurrer rundt? Tviler på at det går kjappere enn 15-20 km/t gitt. Samt også det å uttale seg om "vanvittig motor". Med andre ord, alt som lager dumplyd og bråker veldig har vanvittig motor ? Huff. Useriøst. Håper alle kommer fra det uten varige men, har nok mine ideer om hvordan dette har oppstått men skal la være å spekulere i dette. Støtter opp rundt uttalelsene om at hvis en sjåfør har gjort noe seriøst dumt håper jeg han/hun lærer av det.
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Er det røde på de siste bildene virkelig kun vinyldekor? Altså ikke lakket?
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Stryk over lakken din. Kjenner du nupper, clay! Hvis det føles som å la hånda gli over en vindusrute så er den ok.
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Er mange av proffene hos Meguiars som også bruker clay mens bilen er våt. Såpevann kan også brukes som noen nevner her, men konsistensen på såpa vil kunne ha innvirkning på dens levetid.
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Som jeg selv skriver, har mer erfaring enn de fleste når det gjelder handel fra det store utland. På det meste hadde jeg ca 20 forsendelser i måneden både til min egen bil, til andre samt annet. Når man skriver til en selger: "kan du gi meg totalpris på disse varene inkludert fraktpris levert hjem til meg" så forventer jeg faktisk akkurat det. Mailet da også ca 15 ganger frem og tilbake da ordren var ganske så stor. Hadde tidligere handlet hos de flere ganger uten problemer. Ville bare advare om at de er utrolig usaklige og useriøse hvis det først skulle vise seg at de har hatt kommunikasjonsproblemer, evt har skjulte kostnader. Hadde det ikke vært for dette hadde det ikke vært noe problem. Jeg vil ikke anbefale noen å handle med en forretning som truer med å sorteliste kundene sine hos hele amazon eksempelvis som svar når man spør hva som skjedde med avtalen inkludert frakt. Hvor gøy er det å få 10 000 kroner i ekstra utgifter. Dette var jo ment som et tilbud de skulle gi meg siden jeg handlet såpass mye. Det endte jo opp med å koste mer enn om jeg hadde handlet på vanlig vis med flyfrakt.
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det finnes rimelige roterende maskiner til salgs i norge, men skikkelige poleringsmaskiner (slike som ikke roterer) er det få av. Dyrt blir det også hvis du skal kjøpe TUV godkjente maskiner i europa. Så tingen er å skaffe fra usa.
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fyr på med leather cleaner and conditioner 2 i 1 fra meguiars. Funker som bare det. Får frem den naturlige fargen istedet for å legge i masse drit.
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Flott jobb :) Gøy å se hvor du har mulighet til å teste ut andre produkter.
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Selv foretrekker jeg M80 i likhet med en haug andre på meguiarsonline.com blandt annet Mike Phillips. Funker hver gang, og vil du ha bort mer så må du over på M83 evt M84/M85 med roterende maskin. Clayet du bilen før du la på lakkforseglinga?
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For mange bilder til å poste hver enkelt, håper det går greit med litt linker: http://www.hekta.org/~hpea0711/dombaas/ http://squash.kuvelteran.com/070506_ch_treff/index.htm Et par eksempler
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Tech protect funker som pokker, bare ikke kliss på for mye, da skal du stå å gnikke lenge for å få av det overflødige på toppen :) Gir en naturlig nybil look hos meg iallefall. Varer og varer til sola missfarger igjen samt gir ikke klissete silikonaktig belegg.
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Husk å sjekke fraktprisen oppi det hele da :)
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Nye eiern hadde vært på hondatreff på dombås idag.
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Clay tar ikke "rotta" på lakkforsegling.
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Siden jeg er litt slapp idag og ikke har tid til å oversette hele greia får jeg gå utifra at du er høvelig oppegående på engelsk :) Dette er tatt ifra eminente Mike Phillips tråd om Meguiars 5 stegs filosofi rundt bilpleie. Denne finner du i sin helhet samt masse mer på http://www.meguiarsonline.com sitt forum. What's the difference between polish and wax? There is a lot of confusion about the difference between a polish, and a wax. Many companies are marketing waxes and paint protectants as polishes and glazes and the terms have become almost interchangeable. Professionals know there is a big difference. Meguiar's is a true polish manufacture. That is, unlike many of our competitors that can only offer you a few products for cars with cured paint, Meguiar's product range runs from the highest quality finishing papers in the industry, to state-of-the-art pure synthetic paint protectants, to everything in-between. Example: Most companies only offer the following products: * Car wash * Pre-wax cleaner * One or two waxes (usually some type of natural wax or polymer/silicone synthetic protectant) * Multi-surface vinyl protectant And sometimes one or more of the following: * Some type of wheel cleaner, leather treatment, or tire dressing. Because they offer such a limited selection, and often times don't even manufacture the products themselves, they really have no expertise when it comes to formulating complex products that professionals require as an intricate part of performing their job duties as skilled craftsman. This is why frequently you will see a product whose purpose is to protect the paint labeled as a polish. Instead of merely defining the difference between a polish and a wax, below you will find the Meguiar's 5-Step Paint Care Cycle and the products and procedures for each of the 5 steps. Meguiar's 5-Step Paint Care Cycle The 5-step paint care cycle outlines the 5 basic but important procedures and the accompanying products that enable you to restore and maintain a show car shine on your car's finish. Below are the 5 categories of products including pure polishes and cleaner/polishes as they are placed in the 5-step paint care cycle. The 5-Step Paint Care Cycle includes: Step-1 Washing Washing removes loose surface dirt and loose contaminants that have not yet bonded to the surface. All Meguiar's wash products are specially formulated to clean well without stripping wax protection or dulling and drying out all paint types. All Meguiar's washes also contain special conditioning agents that leave behind a slick, high gloss surface. Because most people wash their car more than any other procedure, it's important to use a car wash solution that is specifically formulated for the unique chemistry used to make modern clear coats. Above all, avoid using common dish washing detergents because these products are extremely harsh and tend to dull the finish down with each use. Dish soaps are also hard on other materials and components such as rubber, vinyl and plastics, remember, when you wash your car with dish soap everything is subjected to the dulling and drying effects high alkaline soaps cause to your vehicle. Step-2 Cleaning or Surface Prep Surface Prep includes both paint cleaning (not to be confused with the washing step), and claying the finish (with a clay bar). To help you accomplish these two steps, Meguiar's offers a number of safe but effective paint cleaners and an easy to use clay bar kit that includes everything you need to clay your car's finish. Paint Cleaners This includes highly specialized Compounds and Paint Cleaners, which utilize both microscopic and macroscopic diminishing abrasives? technology. Meguiar's has pioneered and led the industry in diminishing abrasive technology since 1901. Over the course of these many years, Meguiar's has developed more formulas than any other company for performing the delicate procedure of removing a defect in the paint, while at the same time, removing as little paint as humanly possible during the process. Meguiar's diminishing abrasive technology is one of Meguiar's most guarded secrets that is so highly sought after by our competitors and which completely separates us from the rest of the competition when you look at the results with your own two eyes. Our abrasive products, correctly used, leave the surface looking as though it were just polished, not as though it were just scoured with a compounded. Note: Meguiar's Compounds, Paint Cleaners, Cleaner/Polishes and Pure Polishes don't need to dry before removing them. The idea is to apply them, work them against and into the finish and then remove them. Only Meguiar's Waxes need to dry out of all the paint care products in the Meguiar's Line of products. Out of all the procedures in the 5-step paint care cycle, cleaning is the most important procedure because the results from your cleaning step will determine the end result for the polishing and protecting steps. "A surface won't go clear until it comes clean" It is vitally important that all bonded contaminants, surface imperfections, oxidation, pore-embedding stains, and built-up road grime, etc. first be removed in order to bring the finish to it's highest potential for clarity, gloss, depth and shine. Applying a wax, whether it's synthetic, natural or a blend of both, to a neglected surface that has not been properly cleaned and then polished, will merely act to seal or lock the contaminants to the finish, and will do nothing to improve, or remove the other defects and in most cases will only marginally improve gloss, shine and reflectivity. Clay Bar Technology Clay bar technology evolved as a natural reaction to the need that arose for a way to safely remove bonded contaminants from clear coat paints without resorting to traditional rubbing or polishing compounds and the resulting scratches caused by the sharp, hard abrasive typically used in these formulas. In the old days, if you found overspray or any type of unwanted substance on the hood, roof or deck lid of your car that washing didn't remove, you could simply go to the garage and grab any old compound, and together with a rag, you could quickly remove the offending contaminants. After that you could simply apply just about any companies wax and presto-chango, the problem was gone. Not so simple anymore. If your were to perform that same procedure to a modern clear coat today, you would see a horrible looking scratched-up mess everywhere you applied the compound, and the wax would do nothing to cover the scratches up. Enter the Clay bar Clay bars are non-abrasive bars of synthetic clay called Polyclay. They are somewhat like a high-tech version of Play-Doh?. They work in three easy steps: 1) - First you mold the clay bar into a pancake-looking flat wafer 2) - Second you lubricate the finish with a spray lubricant like Meguiar's Quik Detailer 3) - Third you then rub the clay bar back and forth across the paint (somewhat like a bar of soap against your arm) That's it! You are now claying your car's finish. As you're doing this, the clay bar will grab onto, lift, and pullout the contaminants that have bonded to the surface of your finish. Generally speaking for most cars, only the horizontal surfaces need to be clayed, as it is the horizontal surfaces that contaminants tend to land on and if not removed within a reasonable period of time will then bond tightly to the surface. For extremely neglected vehicles, you can always evaluate the vertical surfaces and if need be, clay them too. One important thing to keep in mind, if a vehicle's finish has bonded contaminants, it is highly likely that it also has below surface defects, for example, pore-embedding stains. For this reason, Meguiar's recommends for best possible results, always use a paint cleaner after claying to insure the finish is clean both on top of the surface as well as below the surface. Step-3 Polishing Meguiar's offers two types of polishes, Cleaner Polishes and Pure Polishes. Cleaner Polishes are for removing very light or fine defects while restoring a crystal clear, smooth high gloss surface. Pure polishes are for finishes already in excellent condition and are for the purpose or creating brilliant high gloss with deep dark reflections. If you look in Webster's Dictionary under the word polish, one of the definitions they include reads like this: "A preparation that is used to produce gloss, and often color for the protection and decoration of a surface." This definition best describes Meguiar's Pure Polishes. Meguiar's pure polishes are designed to create brilliant high gloss while preparing the surface for the application of a protective coating. Meguiar's pure polishes accomplish this without the use of abrasives. Another definition found in Webster's Dictionary for polish is, "To make smooth and glossy by friction." This definition best describes Meguiar's Cleaner/Polishes. Meguiar's cleaner polishes are formulated to very gently abrade the surface with Meguiar's Diminishing Abrasive TM and Buffered Abrasive TM technology to remove the finest defects and create a perfectly smooth, high gloss finish. Depending on what type of paint you're working on, traditional paints like lacquers and enamels, or catalyzed clear coats, Meguiar's has the products specifically designed to work on both types of paints, not to mention many other surfaces such as plastics and polyester resins (Fiberglas Gel-coats). Meguiar's Trade Secret Polishing Oils The trade secret oils Meguiar's uses in both types of polishes are unique to the industry and to this day have never been surpassed for creating deep, dark reflections and brilliant high gloss by any of our competitors in over 100 years. The oils Meguiar's uses are also important in maintaining the original condition of the paint by filling in the naturally occurring microscopic pores and surface imperfections thus preventing detrimental substances and elements as simple as water, or worse, acid-rain, from entering into these pores and microscopic surface imperfections thus causing oxidation and chemical etching. These oils act to replace the original resins as they wear away through natural processes. When paint is new, it is the most impermeable it will ever be, this means it is a very smooth non-porous, continuous film. With age, exposure to the environment and micro-scratching caused by day-in, day-out wear and tear, your paint develops micro-fissures in the surface along with other defects. These micro-fissures and other defects act to make the continuous film or coating of paint more porous. As this happens, your car's finish becomes more vulnerable to corrosive elements that will attack and degrade your finish. Remember, waxes, synthetic or otherwise, are meant to be Sacrificial Barriers with the intended purpose sealing the surface, while blocking those things that would attack your paint, from coming into direct contact with the paint. "Waxes protect your finish by sacrificing themselves so that your paint doesn't have to" An analogy is your skin. In the same way you can clean, polish and protect your skin, you can clean, polish and protect your car's finish. Soap can be used to clean your skin and remove dirt from the pores. Skin lotions can be used to moisturize your skin, conditioning it and making it more clear and beautiful. Protection products like lotions used to protect hands from exposure to chemicals and UV protectants can be applied to help protect your skin from the things that would attack your skin if these harmful things could come into direct contact with your skin. While human skin and automotive paint are very different, the analogy is very similar. With Meguiar's, you can: * Wash your car's finish to remove unwanted and accumulated dirt contaminants * Clean your paint with our special paint cleaners and cleaner/polishes * Polish your paint with our pure polishes to create unequaled beauty * Protect your paint with our advanced paint protection products * Maintain your car's finish using our fast and easy to use maintenance products. The unique thing about Meguiar's highly specialized trade secret oils is their ability to restore and maintain the Optical Clarity of both single stage and clear coat paints in a way that waxes alone cannot match, (both natural and synthetic), the results of which are demonstrated in side-by-side comparisons. Note: Meguiar's Compounds, Paint Cleaners, Cleaner/Polishes and Pure Polishes don't need to dry before removing them. The idea is to apply them, work them against and into the finish and then remove them. Only Meguiar's Waxes need to dry out of all the paint care products in the Meguiar's Line of products. Step-4 Protecting Paint protection products (waxes by any other name), whether they are based on natural ingredients or synthetic ingredients (or a blend of both) provide a protective film, or Sacrificial Barrier (as mentioned above) against Mother Nature and other detrimental or corrosive substances. Without this sacrificial barrier, your finish is susceptible to attack at any time, as harmful or corrosive substances come into direct contact with the surface. This brings up the topic of Water Beading. While most people use the visual indicator of water beading on the surface to mean their finish is protected... it is actually only an indicator of High Surface Tension. High Surface Tension does not automatically mean the coating that has been applied is actually providing any real or meaningful protective characteristics. Meguiar's R & D department has decades of expertise in creating the most advanced polymer-based formula's made from state-of-the-art engineered synthetic polymers, which are able to evenly cross-link very tightly to the surface and offer real protection on a multitude of surfaces against a multitude of attacks. Our products can also achieve optimal cross-linking within 15 to 20 minutes after application allowing the excess product to be removed shortly thereafter. Some of Meguiar's polymer-based waxes include: Meguiar's NXT Generation Tech Wax #21 Polymer Sealant Medallion Premium Paint Protection Gold Class Clear Coat Car Wax Meguiar's Cleaner/Wax Marine Flagship Even our Spray Waxes contain high performance, engineered synthetic polymers, as do some of our Car Wash products. Besides acting as sacrificial barriers to protect the underlying surface, a premium wax can also increase the visual appearance of a finish. Many of Meguiar's waxes will not only provide better protection than the competition, but will also: * Increase optical clarity and distinction of image (D.O.I.) * Enhance and increase the reflective characteristics of medium to dark color finishes * Add shine and slickness * Create wet-looking gloss * Fill-in and hide swirls and scratches * Provide the most UV protection available * Offer water sheeting action, or water beading action (depending on the wax) Choosing the right wax for your finish and your unique circumstances is something our Surface Care Experts would love to help you determine. Just call our Customer Care Hotline and talk to a knowledgeable technician to help you make the right choice. Step-5 Maintaining Maintenance products, like our Quik Detailer, and our Quik Wax, allow you quickly clean your car and restore that just waxed look in just a matter of minutes... practically anywhere. Meguiar's Quik Detailer removes fresh contaminants before they have a chance to bond or etch into the surface. Meguiar's Quik Wax quickly and easily boosts your already existing wax protection while turning your finish dramatically darker and increasing shine and gloss. Meguiar's actually invented the concept of a mist and wipe product for consumers back in the early-80's with the introduction of their mist & wipe product called "Trigger Wash" As leaders and experts in the surface care industry, we have a history of creating new products, such as mist & wipe products like our Quik Detailer and M-34 Final Inspection to help our customers maintain and beautify their vehicles. In keeping with that history, we have just introduced a brand new spray wax that produces similar results as Meguiar's Quik Wax. It's actually a part of Meguiar's NXT Generation line of products based upon Meguiar's ESP Technology (Engineered Synthetic Polymers) and is a companion product to Meguiar's new NXT Tech Wax it's called NXT Spray Wax.
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truhaa: hey! fått deg powerball du også :)
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Treffet blir: Søndag 6. Mai 2007 På: Dombås (utenfor kjøpesenteret, med mulighet for å flytte til en annen parkeringsplass etter hvert) Oppmøte: Klokken 14.00 Vel møtt alle sammen! Mer info her også: http://forum.club-honda.org/showthread.php?t=23254
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våtsliping/ullpad/rotary/rubbing er greia hvis du skal få det så strøkent som overhodet mulig. Har ikke turt å begynt så mye med dette selv enda, har prøvd litt med våtsliping, brukt ekstremt høye gritverdier (2500-3000).
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Ser gjerne bilder i fullt sollys med solrefleks i panser f.ex med makroinnstilling og nærbilde for å være vanskelig ;) Men bare ved å unngå jallaprodukter og vaskemaskin så er man jo fornuftigere enn 99 prosent av norges bileiere. Viktigste er uansett at man selv er fornøyd, virker da sånn? ps: digger den rubbingmaskina di, makita ftw! Synes du forresten den er tung å jobbe med?
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kvalitet og enkelhet i bruk er langt over turtle. Varigheten er lengre enn på autoglym (i mine øyne) samt at jeg synes de er litt enklere å bruke også (selv om autoglym er et merke jeg også anbefaler forsåvidt). Skaff deg puter og backingplate fra f.ex meguiars. Men vit dog at dette vil være en maskin som først og fremst da vil være tilrettelagt for buffing. Du får ikke noe perfekt resultat uten en skikkelig poleringsmaskin eller at du jobber som en gud for hånd. (i min verden). Jeg har en regel om at jeg ikke kjøper puter av firma som selger cellulose svamper (papir).
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Cossieboy sier prickbort fungerer bedre enn dgreaser. Selv bruker jeg dgreasern mest til å få bort fluer og dritt samt ta motorrom, skjermbuer og slikt. Vil uansett spare deg for endel clay jobb vil jeg tro.
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Sæther racing: nå sammenligner jo du da ett lakkforesglingsprodukt opp mot en polish/lett rubbing. Du får jo ikke fjernet riper med slikt noe, hvis det er målet så burde du jo skaffet deg Scratchx/M82/M80 isåfall. Bare et lite tips.
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truhaa: nåja, er ikke heeeelt enig der da men :) Er ikke akkurat som at NXT tech waxen er lik cleaner waxen i A-line serien. Har brukt NXT mange ganger før, greit nok at den i likhet med andre lakkforseglinger fyller i litt men den gjør da heller ikke underverker. Resultat på lakken før og etter når beskyttelsen først har gått av er iallefall den samme hos meg. Bruker den og M21 hipp som happ. Synes NXT har en litt dypere glans mens M21 varer lengre.
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